Dutch translation topics

@sebastiaanveld Comments in Weblate are fine, but they’ll stay there forever, as they can’t be removed once a decision has been met. I suggest that we try to move potentially longer conversations over here.

E.g. Liaising with LibreOffice.
Do we have a contact at the Dutch translator(s) of LibreOffice with whom we can discuss consistency issues between MS Office - LibreOffice - Collabora?

Ouch! A sudden ghust of new subprojects in weblate; hundreds of text strings to translate and to check.
AND I noticed that we’ve got ourselves a Glossary!

I’m starting with the low hanging fruit: subprojects at 100% that have failing Checks

@darshan can you tell us something about the origin of all these strings, were these coming from LibreOffice or these COOL originals and if so - how have these originally been translated? Meaning: do we need to check all these or should we just focus on the new strings and those with a ‘has check’?

Another question: can you open up the Glossary, so that the translators can add words and translations? (Maybe a limited few should be given rights to edit Glossary terms.)

A follow up question: if a term has been added to the glossary, will that initiate new checks for all the strings in all projects? It would be good for consistency if new strings would be marked as ‘to be checked’

@sebastiaanveld
I’m running into translation inconsistencies re.

  • comment (= commentaar)
  • remark (= opmerking)
  • note (= notitie)

Do you agree that we should fix all these inconsistencies and if so, how are we going to find these across all these different sub projects and do we need to bring this into the attention of the LibreOffice translators as well?

@sebastiaanveld
Other inconsistencies:

  • Master (= model?)

We need to get clear how we’re going to approach the translation of various master pages, master slides, master notes, master*.*

Running into another inconsistency:
Array = matrix, but ‘array’ is also popping up in the Dutch translations

Another thing to be discussed:
Column labels ?= Kolomkoppen ?= Kolomtitels ?= Veldnamen (MS365)
Header row…

Another one for consistency:
Spreadsheet/Sheet = werkblad

Further glossary definitions needed for:
Format
Style
Layout

Below = Onder
Bottom = Onderaan

Distance = Afstand
Spacing = Tussenruimte/Spatiëring ?

Frame = Kader ?

Summary of Dutch translation topics to be discussed (with the people of LibreOffice)

@sebastiaanveld, @darshan, @andras.timar, who can liaise with LO?

Style = Stijl ?
Format = Opmaak ?
Layout = Indeling ?
Shape = Vorm ?
Master = Hoofd/Ontwerp/Sjabloon/Model ?
Frame = Kader ?
Record = Registratie ?
Padding = Opvulling ?
Distance = Afstand ?
Spacing = Tussenruimte/Spatiëring ?
Below = Onder ?
Bottom = Onderaan ?
Sheet = Spreadsheet = Werkblad ?
Colomn label/Table header/Header row = Kop/Titel/Veldnaam…?

Well, it’s up to you, if you want to co-operate with LibreOffice translators. We won’t automatically take translations from LibreOffice. Whatever is in our Weblate, will go into Collabora Office and Collabora Online. You can make fixes, or unify terminology. I did it for instance in Hungarian, my native language.

Mine too low hnaging fruit

I’ve just joined the LibreOffice translation team and will look over there how these terms are (consistently) translated
@sebastiaanveld Do you have a take on this list of translation issues?

Collabora EN Collabora NL LibreOffice EN LibreOffice NL MS365 EN MS365 NL
Font Lettertype Font Lettertype Font Lettertype
Paragraph Alinea Paragraph Alinea Paragraph Alinea
Style Stijl Style Opmaakprofiel Style Stijl
Formatting Opmaak Formatting Opmaak Formatting Opmaak
Layout Lay-out Layout Indeling Layout Indeling
Shape Vorm - - Shape Vorm
Master Model Master Model Master Model
View Weergave View Beeld View Beeld
Review Beoordelen Review Beoordeling Review Review
Frame Tekstvak Tekstvak
Record Record Record Record Record Record
Padding
Distance
Spacing
Below
Bottom
Sheet
Spreadsheet Werkblad Spreadsheet Werkblad Spreadsheet Werkblad
Column label - - Column label Veldnaam
Table header Kopteksten
Header row Koprij Veldnamenrij

All Collabora projects are now fully translated into Dutch language and ‘has check’ has been brought to 0. :tada:

While solving the ‘has check’ items and watching ‘similar translations’ I ran into many more inconsistencies, which I’ve resolved. The Weblate Search tool has been very helpfull as well in this.

In my mind, there remains one thing to further look into:

  • table header
  • column header
  • header row
  • and similar…

I get the impression that MS365 (Dutch) is not quite consistent about these terms across Word and Excel. As such, I am hesitant to take these on, at this point.

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Great work @Stephan-P Thanks a lot :tada: :slight_smile: